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Trent River Ramblers at the Eight Bar Rest

I wonder if anyone from around the 1948-52 entrance times remembers any or all of the following, Colin 'Nogger' Norris, 'Monkey' (can't recall his Christian name) and Norman Odam? We all worked at BTR at Horninglow, where I started my first job in 1957, together with Norman Odam, with whom I spent my last year at BGS in LVISc. Nogger and Monk were already well entrenched when we arrived at BTR, but as Old Boys we soon became mates.

At that time Skiffle was on the ascendancy and Nogger bore a striking resemblance to the King of Skiffle, Lonnie Donegan, could play the guitar and sing, as could Norm and together with a tea chest bass (which later became a home made double bass) played by Monk Mortimer, and drums played Wally Pearson(?) from the Research lab formed a skiffle group called The Trent River Ramblers which did very well in local competitions and even appeared at a 'do' at Burton Town Hall, not to mention BTR annual dinner/dance. They did so well that they opened a club at the back of the Star in High St called the Eight Bar Rest and played there to club members and guests on Sunday evenings. The upshot of it all is does anyone remember the group or the guys? I know Norman Odam married someone down the Smoke so probably lives down south, but I was just curious to see if any of them were still around B-o-T or if anyone knows of their where abouts. Contact Les Simpson elay.simmy@speed-mail.co.uk

I'm enclosing a photo of a local skiffle group which was formed in the late 50's by employees of BTR (Horninglow) who coincidentally were also mostly BGS Old Boys. The group was called The Trent River Ramblers and was fronted by Colin Norris an uncanny Lonnie Donegan lookalike. The group were quite successful in local competitions and in 1958 started a skiffle club in a room at the back of The Star pub, which used to be in High St near the old Woolworth's store, performing there on Sunday evenings. I'm sure some of the longer serving BGSOB will remember Colin Norris and other members of the group. The photo of the group comprises from the left :- Walter Malbon (washboard/drums) - the only non BGS scholar. ;   Colin 'Nogger' Norris (Lonnie Donegan lookalike - lead vocals and guitar) BGS entry 1949. ; Tony 'Monkey' Mortimer (teachest and custom built double bass) BGS entry 1949. ; Norman Odam (guitar and vocals) BGS entry 1952. ; Roger Potts (banjo) BGS entry 1950/51?. From Les Simpson.
From Norman Odam jnodam@wt.net Hi,  I sent a test message earlier and it seemed to get through OK so here is a follow up. I live in Houston Texas and just found the website today through an old school friend.  Imagine my surprise when I found my picture with Nogger Norris and the old band at the Eight Bar Rest. From there I looked around the site and memories came flooding back. Names like Vick Roebuck, Killer Corby, Bomber Jones and pictures of Bond Street really gave me goose bumps.I still visit Burton once in a while to see my sister Pat Masson who lives with her husband Bill in Repton. Also get to play golf in Burton and occasionally see some of the old faces but the website is very special. Thank you so much,regards and Happy New Year, Norm Odam 

Well I have continued to exchange e-mail with the Bime and also made contact with Bob Garnham, one of the best swimmers BGS ever produced. I thought therefore I would at least try to make a contribution to the website, however clumsy, and tell the story of the Trent River Ramblers.

For me, it started when I was in 5A and I bought a guitar for 5 pounds from a music store in Station Street opposite M&S. I had no idea how to play it, I just knew I wanted it. One of my form mates also had a guitar and he heard about a talent contest for skiffle at the Swadlincote Rink. We got together, entered and won, much to our surprise. We only played a couple of times after that and then disbanded. Our drummer was also a BGS student who played with a traditional jazz band formed by a group of students.

Shortly after I joined BTR in 1957 I somehow got into conversation with Colin Norris. Colin also had a guitar and wanted to form a group. By this time I had a new and better instrument that my dad bought me and I had learned a few chords. We held our first practice in an upstairs room of a pub in New Street. Tony Mortimer joined us playing the tea chest base and Walter Malbon played the washboard. Tony could also play piano and would later do so with me on the drums while the others took their beer break when we played the clubs. We also had a drummer but I think we fired him for being too loud!! I am sorry to say I do not recall the banjo players name but he also worked at BTR.

Our first "gig" was the BTR Christmas party, which I think was held somewhere in Stapenhill. We were all as nervous as hell but they liked us and we were much encouraged. Some time after that we made  contact with gorgeous character many will remember as Burton's first disc jockey. He worked in the tailors and outfitters store in the High Street, (Ellis's), but at the weekend he put on a record show in the Town Hall, playing classics one week and pop the next. He always wore tails on stage and looked a bit like Hercule Poirot to me. He gave us a slot and we were his first" live act."

Things were moving forward. Tony and Walter, who were both quite nifty at woodwork, set about building the double base which was to become quite a feature of the group. We were also earning money (5 pounds a night for the group) and this went to buy an amplifier, mike and pickups. The first time we went electric, we could hardly believe the sound. Finally Walter bought a set of drums and we were there at last. We played pubs and clubs around South Derbyshire as well as playing in town at Rugby Club dances, weddings and the Town Hall.  Perhaps our biggest moment was in Birmingham where we played in a variety show organized by a guy who was a Terry Thomas look alike.

The Eight Bar Rest came a little later. Colin had a brother who ran a liquor store by the Star and had the contacts to get us in. The Club became popular and hosted a number of local bands. I believe we played together for a little more than two years and then we slowly drifted apart. I went off to college in London and Colin later moved to Pirelli. I still have a guitar, not that I play it much and I had almost forgotten the days of the Eight Bar Rest until Les Simpson pointed me to the BGS website. We were clearly not destined for stardom, but we had a lot of fun, and I would not have missed those two years for anything.                       Norm Odam